06 August, 2007

Bombs Away!


So what is more valued, the lives of our troops or our enemies? If you had to use a nuke, would take out the enemy and save thousands of American lives or try to look noble for history books? Fortunately for our troops of our Greatest Generation, Obama was not in charge in August of 1945. Praise Allah the current anti-American management of the NYT was not in place either, they would have blabbed about the Manhattan Project.
But we did bomb the holy crap out of Hiroshima and Nagasaki 62 years ago. Thousands of Japanese citizens who were programmed to hate any other race were killed. Yes, racism was a policy in Japan before and during WWII. Read the Rape of Nanking and you will see what evil really is. Not our government, but a society that celebrated two Japanese officers who had a contest similiar to the McGuire/Sosa home run race, except they used human heads.
In a piece from the liberal Guardian of the UK, Truman's decsision to drop Fat Man and Little Boy are defended:

Hiroshima and Nagasaki are often used as a shorthand term for war crimes. That is not how they were judged at the time. Our side did terrible things to avoid a more terrible outcome. The bomb was a deliverance for American troops, for prisoners and slave labourers, for those dying of hunger and maltreatment throughout the Japanese empire - and for Japan itself. One of Japan's highest wartime officials, Kido Koichi, later testified that in his view the August surrender prevented 20 million Japanese casualties. The destruction of two cities, and the suffering it caused for decades afterwards, cannot but temper our view of the Pacific war. Yet we can conclude with a high degree of probability that abjuring the bomb would have caused greater suffering still

Judge us as you may, but remember the crimes of the Japanese military fostered by Japanese society were beyond humane.
Japanese at Hiroshima, 140,000, and Nagasaki, 74,000.

Chinese in Nanking: 300,000
If you ever get a chance, read the Rape of Nanking. It is not for weak of heart. In fact, I keep it tucked away so my own children do not see the pictures. If you want a sampling of the horror inflicted on the Chinese people, click on the link next to the civilian casualties above. It honestly altered my life when I read the book and the website reminded what evil is.

15 comments:

Unknown said...

Like the idiot lefties who compare Bush to Hitler, to compare the Japanese to Islamic terrorists just shows how little people know about the situation, the people, or seeing through propaganda.

The people of Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan aren't even close to the kind of evil that everyday Japanese showed and practiced.

The more we try to tell these people how to live, or what their morals should be, the more they resent us.

We should have left after getting rid of Saddam, and let the people fight for what kind of country they wanted.

The people of Iran actually like Americans, but the people of Saudi Arabia, hate Americans.

Islamic terrorists ARE all over the world. So why are we just fighting in Iraq? Are we fighting the right people?

Bad leaders, or a group of fanatic killers are dangerous and must be dealt with, but a country full of people with evil intent are a much bigger danger and a whole different problem.

The Japanese were not just a people misled by their leaders.

This country has faced a lot of danger, evil, and war over these 62 years without using the A-bomb. I hope we can be smart enough to continue to fight our foes without using such terrible weapons.

Laurie said...

Nukes weren't necessary in WWII, and they're unnecessary now.

"The last time a president went mad in a similar manner was in 1945, when Harry S. Truman learned that our atomic bomb was a success and that even though Japan was ready to surrender, he could now drop one or two bombs on the defeated enemy to impress our new enemy and recent partner in the war against the Axis, Stalin, who would then bow to our will due to our formidable strength."--Gore Vidal, Imperial America, p. 29

The concept of vowing never to use nukes is pretty reassuring for those of us who don't have aspirations for Chernobyl Heart. I applaud Obama for his peaceful stance.

Rita Loca said...

yes, like the terrorist wont use them as soon as they get their hands on them! You cant play nice with these types.

Douglas V. Gibbs said...

Laurie, you are a little on the naive side. Japan was not ready to surrender. They are a prideful people and was not willing to surrender until they were convinced all was lost. This would only be brought about, according to the military minds of the day, by an invasion of Tokyo. This invasion, however, was not an option we desired because of the potential loss of life on both sides. So, to shorten the war, and in hopes of averting an invasion of Tokyo, we dropped the bombs. In the end, less lives were lost, and the war in the Pacific was shortened. You, had you lived in those days, as you are today, would have fallen for Tokyo Rose's propaganda which seems eerily similar to the propaganda from the left. Here was her three main points that were designed to break the moral of our troops: 1) The war is illegal 2) you can't win the war 3) your president lied to you. Sound familiar? And you have fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

Laurie said...

D vs. G: It's ironic that you consider me naive when you clearly cling to every word this administration has spouted, even after its dishonesty and outright lies have been exposed time and again. Hook, line, and sinker, indeed.

Brooke said...

I doubt very much that most leftist have even heard of Nanjing, let alone read up on it or looked at the pics.

And to say that nukes weren't necessary during WWII?

That is so absurd, I don't even know where to begin!

nanc said...

brooke - i imagine we'll find out all too soon what the libs are made of if their izzie arsesmooching selves make into the oval office...

the only thing wrong with hiroshima and nagasaki was that it wasn't done sooner.

convert or die, laurie - that will be your choice when izlam makes its way full throttle into this country - of course, there's always dhimmistatus and jizya...

someone will drop a nuke or two and soon, i just hope it's the right people.

WomanHonorThyself said...

fabulous alarm sounding Obob..what a great American u are!!!

Obob said...

thanks for comments everyone. I love the passionate statements and questions by all sides. In my classroom I would refer to this as battle won.

Laurie said...

"someone will drop a nuke or two and soon, i just hope it's the right people."

Strange. I find it absurd that there can be a such thing as "right people" dropping "a nuke or two." We may all call ourselves Christian on this forum, but clearly, not all of us are right.

nanc said...

it's good of you to admit you are wrong, laurie.

Laurie said...

Hey, Nanc, no wonder you're able to glean success from what's going on in Iraq now. Anybody who can misconstrue what another says that badly has got to be on the White House payroll.

Obob said...

Somedays you have to go a little Old Test. to take care of your enemies.

Laurie said...

God said, "Vengeance is mine."

Obob said...

amen

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